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MarcinJ13 · Mar 29, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

I like the idea of Hard Mode. It will give players chance to do lot of stuff they did before once again.

The thing that worries me is decrease in dificulty in Normal Mode. I think it is very unfair to older PvE players.

This difficulty decrease will cheapen titles achieved so far. I don't talk only about Protector titles. Of course theese are affected the most (anyone who ever swear at Thunderhead Keep or Gate of Madness know what I mean).

It will also affect the GMC title. Especially GMC of Tyria (since you had to explore during missions).

I don't know yet if it will work in all the areas or only during missions. If it works everywher then all my GMC titles can go to hell. It wasn't only about going with one arm scrapped and bruised by the nearest wall. Sometimes it required fighting through lot of enemies (Sothern SPeaks).

Also it will cause more players to do "chest runs" as they were easier in high content areas. This affects Wisdom and Trasure Hunter titles.

Since there is lot of players who are only PvP oriented, I will give you a comparision: It is like introducing fame points in Random Arenas.

I wich I could be more articulate, because I can't even describe how disapointed I am.

Maybe it is time to start playing other games, where loyal players are rewarded instead of robbed.

Knightsaber Sith · Mar 29, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Beyond all of that, we've also realized during the course of development that these changes give us the ability to rebalance several things in Normal Mode that players have found too challenging or unpleasant. For example, we're altering the death explosions of the Afflicted creatures in Factions, creature distribution in particularly difficult areas, monsters scattering away from area of effect spells, and healer creatures running from melee attackers indefinitely. We've also decided to add a number of PvE-only Sunspear skills, which will be available to players through both Normal and Hard Mode.

To me, it doesn't sound like they're making it too terribly easier.
We'll have to wait to see the list of everything they changed, but I don't think it'll be that big of a deal.

Orphan Anthem · Mar 29, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

if you think that the hard mode will cheapen your current titles then just let the update go un-noticed, for the rest of us it will be something fun and challanging to do.

Seriously fun things to do>vanity any day of the week

MirageMaster · Mar 29, 2007, 09:01 AM // 09:01

damn i am sick of this shit.its hard enough in torment to do quest, i dont need this crap to be 3 times as hard.

Knightsaber Sith · Mar 29, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Originally Posted by MirageMaster

damn i am sick of this shit.its hard enough in torment to do quest, i dont need this crap to be 3 times as hard.

Then... don't play hard mode O.o

Corinthian · Mar 29, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

I don't understand. How does it cheapen the cartographer title?

If I got it correctly, it goes like this: Everything will stay as it is, but if you want, you can make things harder for yourself.

Knightsaber Sith · Mar 29, 2007, 09:07 AM // 09:07

^Read what I quoted from Gaile in the second post.

Corinthian · Mar 29, 2007, 09:09 AM // 09:09

Ohhh...

Time to get me a cartographer title!!!

Smart people wait until opportunity presents itself.

Cebe · Mar 29, 2007, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

To me, it doesn't sound like they're making it too terribly easier.
We'll have to wait to see the list of everything they changed, but I don't think it'll be that big of a deal.

Aye, From what Gaile says it sounds to me as though they're removing some of the "Just to piss you off..." factor a lot of mobs have like the monks continually kiting. They're GOING to die in the end...and by kiting they're just delaying the inevitable. Normal mode will just have some of the annoyance factor removed while hard mode will be more interesting and challenging. Least that's what it sounds like to me.

Sophitia Leafblade · Mar 29, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Aye, From what Gaile says it sounds to me as though they're removing some of the "Just to piss you off..." factor a lot of mobs have like the monks continually kiting. They're GOING to die in the end...and by kiting they're just delaying the inevitable. Normal mode will just have some of the annoyance factor removed while hard mode will be more interesting and challenging. Least that's what it sounds like to me.

I have to agree i would guess and say there going to return gw to similar to how it was before eg. with less AoE evasion on normal mode, while keeping it in for Hard mode etc. which i actually think will make it much more fun, This will make the game easier for new players you can play through the normal game like before with only a few changes that will make enemys less annoying at times such as Gailes mentioned AoE explosions on Afflicted that cause problems for Melee chars etc. I look forward to Hard mode, and the fun it will bring including more xp and gold for me

yey its about time tryia got some better money making methods like the other campaigns rather than farming

Tetris L · Mar 29, 2007, 10:21 AM // 10:21

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Originally Posted by MarcinJ13

The thing that worries me is decrease in dificulty in Normal Mode. I think it is very unfair to older PvE players.

What's wrong with people? No matter what ANet change, some people will always find a reason to whine about it. Even if ANet improve something or fix an obvious flaw, often by popular demand, some people will still complain about it, asking for some kind of refund for all the "hard work" they had to put into dealing with the problem until it was "nerfed". I'm so sick of this.

Wildi · Mar 29, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

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Originally Posted by MarcinJ13

..The thing that worries me is decrease in dificulty in Normal Mode..

they do NOT decrease difficulty in normal mode

they will alter death explosions of the afflicted creatures and fix the crazy mofo endless running away thing from area of effect spells

Arduin · Mar 29, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Tetris L

What's wrong with people? No matter what ANet change, some people will always find a reason to whine about it. Even if ANet improve something or fix an obvious flaw, often by popular demand, some people will still complain about it, asking for some kind of refund for all the "hard work" they had to put into dealing with the problem until it was "nerfed". I'm so sick of this.

You just hit the nail on the head there, all this whining... Can't people just play the game and be done with it?

Da Silva Fox · Mar 29, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Well the adjustments to the mob scatter should help those of us that like a small farm now again

Etta · Mar 29, 2007, 11:03 AM // 11:03

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Can't people just play the game and be done with it?

Ha! Give them a hard mode and they will ask for an easy mode. Half full or half empty? Enough is never enough for some people.

Thallandor · Mar 29, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by Tetris L

What's wrong with people? No matter what ANet change, some people will always find a reason to whine about it. Even if ANet improve something or fix an obvious flaw, often by popular demand, some people will still complain about it, asking for some kind of refund for all the "hard work" they had to put into dealing with the problem until it was "nerfed". I'm so sick of this.

I shall attempt to explain your query with the picture below:

Welcome to MMOs .... in general.

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prism2525 · Mar 29, 2007, 11:18 AM // 11:18

will 55hp monks be seen farming elona reach & the troll cave outside droks again in normal mode since they're changing the mobs' behaviour to AoE?

Wildi · Mar 29, 2007, 11:46 AM // 11:46

mobs won't stand in aoe and do nothing but anet wil adjust their AI or someting I guess, plz stop the omg we will all die posts

BSSuperman · Mar 29, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

I shall attempt to explain your query with the picture below:

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Oh my !!!!

This made me larrf out loud and everyone in my office is now giving me funny looks.

edit - I had to come back to look at this again - I can really hear the voices of the characters saying it as well.

Im laughing again.

Onarik Amrak · Mar 29, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by Thallandor

I shall attempt to explain your query with the picture below:

Welcome to MMOs .... in general.

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Trolls: Our posts will block out the sun.
Mods: We shall ban you in the shade.

You really should post that on every thread!